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Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by UnicornForge on Aug 2nd, 2007, 6:29pm

If anyone has any questions, please ask. There are no stupid questions.

The drawings tend to be confusing until you have looked at them for a long time.
Re: Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by Artificer on Aug 11th, 2007, 10:12pm

Why is the sky blue?

--I have been redrawing the prints in my drafting software. That has helped to fill in some of the missing pieces.
Re: Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by UnicornForge on Aug 14th, 2007, 7:57pm

The sky is blue because elves get up early each morning and paint it blue.

Sounds great. I have been cleaning up some drawings using photoshop.
Re: Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by RayMicheel on Oct 31st, 2010, 07:46am

I'm having a bit of problem figuring out how to post a new thread so I'll reply to this one.

I saw a traveling forge in Wisconsin recently. The owner demonstrated that the anvil used on these forges is a "dead" anvil to minimize noise that would alert enemy troops in the area. I've asked a couple of metallurgists about what steel chemistry would yield an anvil that does not "ring". They seemed to think it must have been malleable iron, not steel. I am wondering if it simply had a higher lead content than say, the free-machining steels used today.

Just curious!

Ray
Re: Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by UnicornForge on Nov 5th, 2010, 3:25pm

Ray, sorry to hear that you are having difficulty in posting.

My humble suggestion is to take what people say about history with a large grain of salt. A lot of bad information is passed around as "truth" that simply have no foundation in reality. The authoritative book to refer you to is "Anvils In America" by Richard Postman. I have the book in front of me.

Your metallurgist friend is sort-of-correct. Anvils of that time period were wrought iron with a steel plate forge welded to the top, and not made from cast iron. Wrought iron is forged/wrought from a spongy mass of iron. Demonstrations of making wrought iron are sometimes done by local blacksmith guilds. To my knowledge lead was not used. Anvils from that time period were not made from steel, only the top plates were steel, and always the top plates were steel. Some anvils of that period were louder than others, but the army specifications in the Ordnance Manuals of that time period only state that the anvil will be 100 pounds English pattern. I don't believe that the amount of noise generated by a 100 pound anvil was much of a concern. Next time you see the gentleman ask for citations for documentation of his statements of "facts". One possibility is that the steel plate on his anvil either was worn off or broke off resulting in a "dead" anvil, as that sometimes happens.

All one needs to do to quiet an anvil is to stick a magnet under the heel of the anvil. The magnet absorbs the vibrations of the anvil and prevents the vibrations from becoming sound that could be heard from more than a few feet away.

Shown in this photograph is my 100 pound Mousehole brand anvil, made around that time-period, it is wrought iron with steel top. Anvils made by Mousehole were extremely common during that time period, and a lot of them are still around today.


Re: Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by mhopfin on Nov 16th, 2015, 08:31am

Just curious if you have any drawings of the anvil block that was used with the traveling forge. I have the Antique Ordinance plans for the Mountain Artillery forge but haven't gotten around to purchasing the plans for the traveling forge. I also haven't seen any Mordecai drawings for the anvil and block when searching online.
Re: Anyone have any questions, don't be shy
Post by UnicornForge on Mar 4th, 2017, 11:35pm

There are no Mordecai drawings for the anvil or anvil block for the Traveling Forge. The Ordnance Manuals only specified a 100 pound anvil, likely London Pattern. For an anvil support, they reportedly used whatever box or barrel was handy. ... On the other hand, the Mordecai drawings show the anvil and stand for the "Portable Forge" used with the Mountain Howitzer, basically a stump anvil.

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